Abortion & the Catholic Politician (in light of the recent Supreme Court ruling)

A good place to start is with Catholic teaching.When Jesus observed Passover with his apostles He offered up the bread and said this is my body which will be given up for you.When Jesus died on the cross He gave up His body as the sacrificial lamb. When 2 people sacramentally marry they are giving themselves to each other and they consummate that commitment by giving their bodies to each other. If the woman gets pregnant she gives up her body. It begins at the moment of conception. When Mary pronounced her fiat-be it done unto me-Jesus was conceived in that instant. When the priest offers up the host in the Mass he says those same words of Jesus. This is my body which will be given up for you. What we see here is a recurring theme-sacrificing one’s body for the sake of the other in a good way.

Now if you listen to the pro abortion side of the debate you can hear the same words; This is my body but not for the same reason. This is my body and i’m not ready to make a sacrifice for another human being. It’s about my life, my time, my future. If you’re willing to destroy the life another person was part of creating i have to wonder how much commitment you really had to the person you were involved with.

In my opinion-and it’s opinion only-contraception opened the door to abortion and same sex marriage.

As a Catholic you know you are not permitted to use artificial contraception. Contraception that is readily available. The Church does not expect women to have children every time they turn around or that a family is able to afford more children than the ones they may already be raising. The Church is not trying to encourage people to be irresponsible. What the Church does teach is that we have a cycle and pregnancy can be planned responsibly with NFP. There are only a few days out of each month a woman can get pregnant and it’s those few days where one can abstain. If you’re a non Catholic none of this has any bearing on you. Contraception is readily available. Unfortunately i think artificial contraception opened the door to abortion, same sex marriage and broken marriages as well as promiscuous behavior outside of marriage. Nobody is looking to take contraception away from non Catholics. We are looking for protection of the right to follow our conscience-we should not be forced into providing contraceptives or abortions.

Abortion and contraception didn’t make children more wanted. It made them less wanted so it wasn’t that surprising that same sex marriage was legalized. i know there are couples who end up not having any children as much as they may have wanted them but that’s the exception. not the rule. When you have sexual relations you are likely to get pregnant. As much as contraception is available sometimes it is not used because it doesn’t really encourage responsible behavior.

There are intrinsic evils and Catholics are to oppose these evils in public choice. Abortion is an intrinsic evil and especially grave because it takes a human life. Euthanasia aka mercy killing would be opposed for the same reason. A Catholic politician can’t say that she would never have an abortion herself but it’s up to other women what they do. A male Catholic politician can’t say i personally oppose abortion but i can’t oppose the rights of others to have one. They are still participating in the evil that abortion is considered to be.

What if the life of the mother is endangered? It’s rare but it happens. You still cannot DELIBERATELY take the life of another innocent human being, which abortion does and is intended to do but ” operations, treatments, and medications that have as their direct purpose the cure of a proportionately serious pathological condition of a pregnant woman are permitted when they cannot be safely postponed until the unborn child is viable, even if they will result in the death of the unborn child”

From the  Ethical and Religious Directives for Catholic Health Care Services, Fourth Edition.

I know that if someone is pro abortion they are going to bring up the worst possible circumstances and those are rape and incest. There’s no arguing that-they are the worst possible circumstances for the victim and both are crimes.

According to the Guttmacher Institute 1% of women obtain abortions for a pregnancy as a result of rape and 0.5 obtain abortions as a result of being impregnated by incest. Rare doesn’t make it any less traumatic for the victims and then to have the trauma compounded by an unplanned pregnancy has to be especially difficult. Difficult circumstances don’t change the evil added to evil by abortion. The problem here is that the innocent pay a bigger price than the perpetrator. The baby is given the death penalty. The woman suffers one trauma only to face another.

You could use the term difficult circumstances for almost any situation a pregnant woman might face.As a Catholic politician who cannot participate in an intrinsic evil especially to the extent they do(passing legislation) CAN participate in helping various organizations that reach out to women with difficult circumstances.

I’m sorry but 63 million abortions [and going] would be genocide under any other circumstances and flies in the face of the pro abortion motto, rare. It’s affordable because the taxpayers are expected to pay for it and have been. i’m not sure why these people need our tax dollars when they’re given massive donations not to mention the money they make directly from preforming abortions. They’re awash in money. Planned Parenthood is a revolving door and has nothing to do with helping people plan to become parents. They say choice a lot but never mention adoption.

Now there’s the Catholic teaching re abortion. We can now take a look at the Supreme Court ruling that overturned Roe V Wade and i’m going to make it brief.

The ruling did not ban abortion. All they said was the Supreme Court didn’t have the authority to rule on abortion which is what the court should have said in the first place. Even Ruth Bader Ginsberg-a die hard liberal all the way-knew the Roe V Wade ruling in 1973 was horrid and would probably end up overturned one day. We never really had the abortion debate. One side decided and it was forced on the rest of us for 50 yrs. The ruling that the left is pitching a fit about didn’t ban abortion-it sent the question back to the states where it belonged. Every state will decide. The people elect their legislators in each state.. These are the people who pass the laws and they answer to the people who elect them. This is where the question will be decided. i don’t get the big fit they’re having. i know Biden is stoking fear by telling people they will be arrested for having an abortion. It’s nonsense. but it is an election year. Nobody has ever been arrested for getting an abortion and it’s not going to happen now.

Besides, Biden and Pelosi are Catholics. They’ve rationalized their position on abortion to keep themselves in power but they’ve definitely forfeited their Catholic faith. It never stopped them from using their Catholic ‘membership’ for political purposes.

You May Not Condone It, but You Can Understand It Now,Right?

Before we look at the election of 2020 and the Capitol incident on Jan 6,2021 we have to go back to the election of 2016. It’s all tied together.

The Democrats were talking about the impeachment of Donald Trump before he was even sworn into office on Jan 21st. I’m not sure how that works. You usually have to wait until someone is at least sworn in, served and done something to warrant an impeachment.

On Jan 19,2017 at least 60 Democrats made it known they were not going to attend the inauguration. They called Trump illegitimate.

We all remember Maxine Waters and her call for intimidation/harrassment of Trump associates and the goal. They couldn’t go to a restaurant to eat with their families without being harassed by a mob and chased out :

We now know that Trump and his associates were spied on. We know that officials in the FBI lied to the FISA court to get warrants. We know that the Clinton campaign paid to get the Russia Collusion lie circulated and ultimately used by the FBI with the purpose of first defeating Trump in the 2016 race then getting him removed from office after he was elected.

Know what that’s called when you conspire like that to get a President removed from office? A COUP. It went on for 3 yrs until the plot was exposed. Know what happened to all the people involved in the attempted coup? If you said NOTHING you would be correct.

President Trump spent 3 yrs of his 4 yr term under investigation and the specter of impeachment for something he never did. George Papadopolous, General Flynn and Carter Page were all targets of the FBI.

This was our country on the day Trump was sworn in as reported by Euronews:

The explicit goal of the November 4 protests…. is to remove Trump and his administration from office. In order to achieve that end, millions of people will have to take to the streets of cities like New York, Austin and San Francisco, demanding that the administration step down, organizers told Newsweek

https://www.newsweek.com/antifa-rallies-november-4-promise-remove-trump-white-house-700406

They weren’t done in 2016 because Trump was up for re-election in 2020.

They tried to get in the White House. Trump and his family are moved to the bunker. Secret Service agents are injured. I can’t identify which,if any, group these protestors would belong to. It could be BLM/Antifa or just a gathered group of people with the obvious target.

We remember the media calling it for the most part ‘peaceful protests’. Anyone recall Biden,Pelosi or the Democrats referring to the riots as an insurrection even after they tried to attack the White House? What about Antifa’s publicly stated goal of getting Trump out of office.

Compare the media coverage of all these riots from 2016 and 2020 to their characterization of the Capitol protest/riot on Jan 6?

Let me pose this question…what if the protestors on Jan 6 were convinced the election was stolen and viewed the people who had stolen or even won the election as a threat to the country and the Constitution-given what we know now could you at least understand it?

They watched the country burn with lawlessness by mobs in the streets get a slap on the wrist and the media being fairly complacent at the time because the President was Trump. They endured 3 yrs of the Russia lie and an unwarranted impeachment. They saw their own once trusted agencies like the FBI target an American president and his associates and even SPY on them, President included. Can you blame them for being fed up enough to go to the Capitol Building and protest. Now i’m not condoning attacks on police or violence like the left did when it was against Trump. i am saying if the Biden administration is everything they thought it was can you at least understand them? Our president was banned from social media and you weren’t even allowed to question the 2020 election while the media hid the Hunter Biden laptop story to protect Joe Biden. Yet ,they pushed the Russia collusion lie relentlessly.

Here is a group of protestors inside the Capitol building. There are statues. Anyone tearing them down? Where’s the graffiti? For that matter where are their weapons?

Some of those people could already be sitting in prison. We know one unarmed woman was shot and killed that day, Ashli Babbit.

Given that they weren’t wrong about the Biden administration can you understand it now?

I’m not asking anyone to condone what happened. i’m asking that people try to understand it. i AM asking for due process for the people who are imprisoned. They were given solitary confinement for months and no trial dates. They are considered Biden’s enemies so they don’t get due process?

Consider that the FBI is doing the bidding of the Biden administration and violating the Constitution for him.

Arrest without a valid search warrant

unlawful search and seizure of private property

violating attorney/ client privilege

To name a few.

i can’t believe the left thought Trump was a danger to democracy and they’re watching our country being taken over by a Marxist regime that is beholden to China.

i am convinced the Democrats were corrupt enough to steal an election and that Joe is not a legitimate president. What they accuse us of doing they’re doing themselves. The difference is we have proof. None of the people on Jan 6,2021 were calling for the removal of Biden from office. There was no insurrection. For all we know it was an FBI/Pelosi/Biden set up. Final questions; Where’s Ray Epps and why isn’t he in prison like the rest of the protestors? Where’s the Pipe Bomber? Was same even brought up at the Jan 6 hearings? Odd,no?

A side note that’s worth mentioning: I’m NOT into conspiracy theories. The earth is round, the 9/11 attacks were perpetrated by jihadists and planned by Osama Bin Laden(who is just as dead as Hitler), our astronauts landed on the moon, Obama was born in Hawaii. He was a legit President. My curiosity is piqued when events don’t pass the smell test. I am a firm believer in Occam’s Razor. The incident on January 6, 2021 was not an insurrection by a long shot but i am extremely suspicious it was an FBI/Pelosi/Biden plot-and God knows who else in the Democrat party knows the real story. .i am absolutely convinced the Dems were corrupt enough to steal the 2020 election and did.

When you count in the riots of 2016 as Trump was elected it’s longer than 8 months.We witnessed a REAL insurrection before Jan 6th; there was no committee called up to investigate. The cabal that orchestrated the coup against Trump were never held accountable for anything.

POSOBIEC: Biden Has Weaponized the FBI and DOJ Against His Political Opponents— The GOP Needs To End It A MUST Read. Pls Share!

These coordinated attacks on Trump officials and local Republican leaders amount to government sponsored, political retaliation akin to what is witnessed in autocratic, undemocratic countries like China or Russia.

https://humanevents.com/2022/06/30/posobiec-biden-has-weaponized-the-fbi-and-doj-against-his-political-opponents-the-gop-needs-to-end-it/

Those responsible for this lawlessness must be held to account, and it needs to be understood where these directives were coming from, if it was a point of power of an agency-wide belief in the righteousness of this overreach. Nothing like this should be allowed to happen again to individuals in either political party.

It’s not righteous when you violate the civil rights of American citizens, when you do not keep the oath you took to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States and when you believe that you are not obligated to follow the laws that you expect everyone else to follow. You are not righteous. You have become a threat to the Republic.

Democrats like to say that they are saving democracy, but the targeting of political opponents is an abuse of executive power and is deeply anti-democratic.Those behind this political retaliation have no interest in upholding democracy. They want more power, and they will abuse the power they have now to destroy those who stand in their way. Moreover, they do it by accusing their opponents of the same things that they do themselves.

POSOBIEC: Biden Has Weaponized the FBI and DOJ Against His Political Opponents— The GOP Needs To End It